As you can see, I am quite disturbed that dmoz.org is the defacto and free directory on the internet, where getting listed is a painful, or rather “one-sided process”. One-sided meaning that my submission never gets listed. I had also mentioned that I had once received a solicitation for cash of US$25 per year to get my site listed there. This is another article which I found from the internet, supporting my earlier report that such things existed.

Don’t get me wrong that I am trying to thumbs-down on dmoz.org. It is a good directory where people work together to create a human-edited directory system. However, getting a website listed is often related to a commercial purpose and as such, money can be easily involved if the system is not properly regulated. Where there is money in a “free, yet privileged community”, there will be scam (maybe?).

I don’t think I will ever stop these ranting articles until I get my site listed, or myself as an editor – and an honest one.

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A DMOZ editor is soliciting me for money. Check out the email I received from Daniel Kotarski, editor for the http://dmoz.org/Sports/Fantasy/Football/Commissioner_Tools/
category. His DMOZ username is dankotarski. If you feel he should be
reported for abuse after reading this topic, please do it here:


am the editor of the DMOZ category to which your site was submitted.
Despite what everyone says, you DO get your site listed faster (and
everyone knows how important it is to be listed in DMOZ) by throwing an
editor a few bucks (no-one on DMOZ will ever admint to that though).
The key is, you need to find the right editor…..




I responded with, “How much does the dmoz listing cost?” and got this response:



Although it is not something the ODP (dmoz) does on an open basis, it’s

editors do. You won’t read about it anywhere and you can talk to dmoz’s

“meta” editors about it – they will only tell you that they “dont condone

such activity and that the culprit will be stripped of his dmoz editorship

rights.” (Of course, that’s not what really happens). There are no prices

set in stone, it’s just whatever you feel it’s worth. The more you offer,

the sooner it gets listed. I listed a chart below to give you a general idea

about how much will get you what.

I know how this sounds. But believe me, it’s worth it – especially if you

plan to make money from your site. I know because i did the same thing. The

bottom line is, Dmoz editor’s are so busy keeping sites updated (and listing

new ones) that they don’t have time to review very many sites. It takes alot

of time to review a site and theres alot of editor BS that needs to be done

afterwards. Typically, it takes about an hour to review a site and even

longer to finish the whole process. After it has been approved, no matter

when that is, it takes a few days to be able to search your site on dmoz’s

main page and anywhere from 1 day to 60 days to finally get listed in the

Google directory (which is really DMOZ’s data).

If you plan on having a popular website, especially if you plan on making

money from it through membership fees or paid advertisements, you absolutely

MUST be listed in dmoz. Being in DMOZ will take your pagerank from 0/10 to

3/10 overnight. Unless you’re listed in the ODP, you’re site will not be

found very easily, even if you parttake in the Pay-Per-Click campaign such

as google, yahoo or msn. In short, if you’re not listed in DMOZ, you’re

nobody. That’s not just me talking, thats a fact.

Everyone who has suggested a site to dmoz knows that you may wait a VERY

long time to get listed. My site took 2 years to get listed – and that’s

typical. I have read posts in google groups where people waited as long as 3

years! Its true, go here to read them:


The work-around is getting in touch with a dmoz editor (me) and suggesting

that they review your site…and making it worth while. Typically, in the

past, people have paid:

To get reviewed:

Within a year: $50.00

Within 6 Months: $75.00

Within 3 Months: $90.00

Within 1 Month: $125.00

Within 2 Weeks: $180.00

Within 1 Week: $225.00

Within 3 Days: $275.00

Within 24 hours: $300.00

ASAP: $350.00

Personally, i believe this to be an incredible deal since Yahoo directory

charges 300.00/yr for a listing and it takes 7 days for them to review your

site…….even then there is no guarantee that you’ll get listed and they

STILL keep you $300.00. DMOZ is much more important to be listed in than


If you are interested, you can pay by check or credit card via PayPal. If

you decide you want to get reviewed ASAP, I will start reviewing as soon as

i see the payment go through.

Again, THIS IS A ONE-TIME OFFER so let me know what you want to do (in other

words, dont wait too long).