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I have won the lottery and I am getting poorer everyday!
- 12-18-2008
- Categorized in: I Was Scammed!
Subject: winners choice lottery scam by phone
Question/Comment: My mother is involved in a scam with these people and has already sent $300 plus $2500 and now possibly another $2500 plus. The sweat talk her on the phone and know she is vulnerable, she is not listening to all the people who have told her not to talk to these people. They must be very convincing because she believes she will receive millions of dollars. Today 12/17 she was supposed to get a delivery by FedX telling the next instructions.
The one name I have is John Kent and money by Western Union has been sent to possibly Virginia and Michigan.
What can I do, can you help, police will do nothing.
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If the scammers are located in the US, we do not understand why the police cannot provide any assistance to such matter.
Since the money is sent via Western Union, let the police know so that they can contact Western Union to assist to provide further details. They might be able to track down the scammers when they collect the money.
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Sonia, so far I have read your story and it seems that you have done every possible thing you could have done. I would have done the same thing, but at this point I would have told my mother that her greed and stupidity is going to be the death of her, and if she is soo green eyed that she wouldn't listen to ANYONE but the scammers...she might just deserve this. I know you love her, and you have gone through extrodinary measures to protect her, but when will she stop?? If she is medically unable to live on her own then she should be put into a home. I can't see any other way to get her to completely stop. But if she is still sound minded and refuses to listen, then there isn't much else you can do when you are fighting your mother and not the scammers. They are just sitting back and taking her money while she willingly gives it away. 80K!!!!!! OMG hun I feel so badly for you. She is literally fighting you and finding ways around you to send money!!! (of course getting help to send that money from the scammers) I honestly think that this will not stop until you have full guardianship over her, have her in a home and you are the sole guardian over her assets. I know putting her into a home (probably close to you would be best) would be hard but if you don't she is going to bury herself and you as the caring and loving child in debt and leave you penniless. She is going to end up without a dime and you are going to have to pay to put her in a home in the end. That is what I think you should consider doing to stop this madness. Also putting her in a home, she would have no need for a home line nor a cell, and the home literally blocking the scammers calls would probably severe the communication between them and your mother all together. If you do this at least you can try to salvage whatever is left of your mothers hard earned life savings and give you your piece of mind and sanity back. Like I said, SHE IS NOT GOING TO STOP UNTIL YOU STOP HER. I hope everything goes better for you, and I hope that this gets resolved soon.
Yeah this bill williams is a scammer no dobt hoping to get some victims to call them so he can rescam the somewhat trusting/stupid people victimized the first time heres how you can tell hes not legit too.... note he says contact his offices at that email with very targeted cliet base he wants to try and rip off us people,intenational prosecution is almost imposible,secondly he states his company emails with a free yahoo.com mail account with no name as account addy companies do not use free mail services such as yahoo if anyone sends copy of that post to abuse@yahoo.com subject title Scammers using yahoo to steal identity/money yahoo will terminate that e mail,thats how you fight back if every mail account they make gets locked n cancled they cant keep dealing with victims as thier contact is no longer recieving or sending mail,it all comes down to your stupidity level in all honesty in this world you do not get somthing for nothing
After sometime i didn't hear from him again he said that I should make another Payment of $30,000 USD which I refuse so he gave me the option to do it or he will not come for me again. When I saw this i was in the hospitalized for 1week did not know what has happen to me when I recovered healthily, so i decided to report my case to the Authorities and someone who then refer me to contact and hire a private investigator through the help of a Britain Nigerian Attorney who is a diplomat in the Country to purse my case with the Authority to track and give him to the appropriate authority for prosecution which i did urgently the reason why i did that because Government will handle your case at the time when it proof has been found or when your file is open i decided to take it private. today mark David Alais is Mr Rotime Balogun Cell inmate No 343 Ikoyi Prison Lagos Nigeria Serving 4years in Prison terms and i was compensated with $100,000 USD for losses and inconvenience by the Nigerian Redemption Authorities for restoring good image ONE GOOD PEOPLE ONE NATION Concept ( N.A.O), and process for acting a vital financial role in getting this dating scammer by Various Authorities, that couldn't bear for what i have gone through some of this scammer are still moving free in the country they might be the once that has scammed you of you hard earned money . Stop contacting these people they are fake if truly you won anything it should be sent without you paying dine or making Advance payment you can contact him on . i only spend some money for the purse process which is better off. i have recovered my fund i thought i lost, thanks to my Attorney he also told me that after when he fall victim to scam of $70,000USD he dedicated him self to fight scam and get scammer with his through people like us that is dedicated to make a difference in the World audrey.robinson@mail.lawguru.com. Thanks Audrey Robinson London UK
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The Guardianship has been in place since March 13 so myself and a co guardian in Sarasota have all this under control. Even with her accounts managed, we did leave two open since her pensions go in these. Unfortunately here in Canada this meant she was able to sent $700, $600 and $500 while I was watching. These people are so convincing, as you know, that she sent the money even though she had sworn she would never send any more and had admitted she had been 'taken'
I am hoping that with both detectives working on this case will have some success in nailing these evil people. I will keep you posted
Your story is sadly familiar, as my elderly father has been taken for a comparable sum by Jamaican scumbags.
Hard as it is to be on the outs with your mother, you absolutely did the right thing by seeking guardianship, as our family was forced to do, by my dad. Believe me when I say that, at this stage, she will not stop sending them money voluntarily. You will have to stop her.
Although it is difficult to prevent your mother from doing anything, particularly at a distance, there are steps a guardian can take to make it difficult for your mom to do business with the crooks. Bear in mind that the guardian will have to supply the appropriate documentation (i.e. Letters of Conservatorship), to do most, if not all, of the following:
1. Notify her bank(s) of the guardianship, and put restrictions on her account (e.g. no more cash withdrawals or wire transfers; require guardian's signature on checks, etc.).
2. Notify her credit card provider(s) of the guardianship, and either cancel her account, or instruct them not to give her cash advances (expect some resistance from the credit card companies, many of whom wrongly believe that the cardholder's rights supercede the authority of a guardian or conservator).
3. Find out who your mother's the cell phone provider is, and terminate her service. If you feel she needs a mobile phone for security purposes, replace her existing unit with a phone that has parental controls (some models make it possible to program the phone so the owner can only make calls to, and receive calls from, specific numbers).
4. If you have not done so already, have the guardian contact the Fraud departments at Western Union and MoneyGram, and insist that they block wire transfers from your mother. Offer to provide Letters of Conservatorship, if you have them. If your mother is sending funds to the crooks via Money Mules (go-betweens in Canada or the U.S.), give the fraud people at MG and WU their names.
My final piece of advice, if you are not following it already, is: DOCUMENT EVERYTHING - who you talked, when you talked to them, what you talked about, and what the outcome was. This is especially critical if you have not obtained guardianship, as your attorney will need to demonstrate to the judge (e.g. by way of bank documents, copies of money transfers, etc.) that your mother is impaired and in need of a guardian.
I hope this helps. For further information, I suggest you check out my blog at http://scamjammers.blogspot.com.
Hang in there,
Son of Scam
A Detective in Sarasota looked into this matter but there has been no followup that I know of. I am now going to give all my anecdotals and documents to the Police in Canada and see if I have better results.
My mother does not talk to me any more and thinks I am evil because I intitiated a Guardianship in Sarasota. Her family and friends all agree this is what had to be done to stop her from losing her life savings. These Jamaican Scammers are ruthless, they control their victims with fear and intimidation. They will continue to harrass their victims if they think there is any money to be had or the victim will 'money launder' for them.
My mother MG now has a cell phone so they can call her any time and we cannot change her land line since she will give them the number....it is so upsetting and frustrating because they are ruining the health of my 'stubborn and lonely' mother who still insists she will get the money even though she has never received a penny from them.
Any help would be welcome!!
my name is willilam, i'm FBI police officer department of fraud investigation, you the victims should have report the case to the nearest police station when the didwas happen. but as it is since you said you pay the money via western union, it tracesable. only you will provide all the require information. write our office online via usvictims@yahoo.com, there you can find your help.